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Old 05-26-2005
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Is SourceForts still licensed under Creative Commons? Will it always be, in the future?
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I'm not fully aware of the legal status of Half-Life 2 mods, but will be taking the time to write a proper licence for v2. I very much doubt it will be the Creative Commons licence.
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Knifa's borked source code is covered under a CC licence. As our code is written from scratch by different authors, I guess it doesn't apply to us.

I certainly hope that my maps aren't under a CC license, because that would mean that people could rip my maps, edit them and re-realease them, and all they have to do is give me credit.
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Knifa's borked source code is covered under a CC licence. As our code is written from scratch by different authors, I guess it doesn't apply to us.

I certainly hope that my maps aren't under a CC license, because that would mean that people could rip my maps, edit them and re-realease them, and all they have to do is give me credit.
Unfortunately you don't understand how the CC licence works. It is not actually a licence per-se, but a 'build your own licence' kit.

I suggest you look at this web page:

http://creativecommons.org/license/

Notice that one of the options is to forbid modifications of your work.

In fact, it would seem that all HL2 mods without exception are effectively licenced under the Creative Commons. Not in actual fact, but their licences might as well be.

Think about it, most HL2 mods are distributed for free, without sourcecode (No modifications), and forbidding commercial use. That is exactly the same as one possible configuration of the creative commons.

Other HL2 mods do allow modifications. That fits under the CC too, but it is just one possible configuration of the CC.

So, since any licence that you guys come up with is effectively going to be identical to a possible configuration of the creative commons licence, it's probably better to use it. After all, it has been written by legal experts and lawyers who (no offence) can probably write better legal documents than you guys. On top of that, you get the positive publicity of using the creative commons licence. This could possibly lead to free promotion on sites such as slashdot or boingboing, if you play your cards right.

That's the great thing about the creative commons licence. People can get exactly the licence they want, except they don't have to pay a lawyer to get the real thing.
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Knifa's borked source code is covered under a CC licence. As our code is written from scratch by different authors, I guess it doesn't apply to us.

I certainly hope that my maps aren't under a CC license, because that would mean that people could rip my maps, edit them and re-realease them, and all they have to do is give me credit.
Unfortunately you don't understand how the CC licence works. It is not actually a licence per-se, but a 'build your own licence' kit.

I suggest you look at this web page:

http://creativecommons.org/license/

Notice that one of the options is to forbid modifications of your work.

In fact, it would seem that all HL2 mods without exception are effectively licenced under the Creative Commons. Not in actual fact, but their licences might as well be.

Think about it, most HL2 mods are distributed for free, without sourcecode (No modifications), and forbidding commercial use. That is exactly the same as one possible configuration of the creative commons.

Other HL2 mods do allow modifications. That fits under the CC too, but it is just one possible configuration of the CC.

So, since any licence that you guys come up with is effectively going to be identical to a possible configuration of the creative commons licence, it's probably better to use it. After all, it has been written by legal experts and lawyers who (no offence) can probably write better legal documents than you guys. On top of that, you get the positive publicity of using the creative commons licence. This could possibly lead to free promotion on sites such as slashdot or boingboing, if you play your cards right.

That's the great thing about the creative commons licence. People can get exactly the licence they want, except they don't have to pay a lawyer to get the real thing.
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I don't often agree with bumping old topics, but that was a very well written post.
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I don't often agree with bumping old topics, but that was a very well written post.
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Sorry, I wasn't paying attention to date, only how far down the page it had traveled.
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Sorry, I wasn't paying attention to date, only how far down the page it had traveled.
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Thanks for the heads up guspaz. However, I am familiar with the Creative Commons licence, and my simple problem with it (while it's great for the Linux parts of my development) is that it can get too long.
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