Simple: Lower the amount of points an engineer gains for ripping a block. Easy to impliment. Should hold the release of the next patch up by about 2 minutes.

Receiving 5 points for ripping a block is far too generous. The overall gain for taking an enemy piece is reward enough in itself, as you both disadvantage the enemy in a semi-permanent fashion, as well as gaining a block for your team to use next build phase (in most cases). The reward of 5 points causes public players to continuously attempt to rip blocks that serve no tactical advantage, purely for the 5 points they'll get for their effort. In most cases, when blocks get ripped they are already heavily damaged, therefore requiring a split second of the engineers time, and even less of his skill.

There are obviously better solutions to solving this problem than simply lowering the amount of points the engineer gains, but I'm thinking in terms of the amount of time it will take to implement, as well as in-game practicalities. A better solution may be to award the engineer a point for every 20% of health the block has left, however this would be somewhat more demanding of Zoc and the QA team's time, and may eventuate into setting back the patch.

So yeah. There you have it.

Summary of the Responses for Developers
- Some kind of alteration in the engineers reward for ripping a block is required.
- A simple decrease will suffice if that's all there is time for, however a favoured alternative would be to award the engineer points in the 'Score' column for rips, as cappers get for capping.
- Azlan skim reads posts.
- Red shouldn't look at the suggestion board when he's been drinking.
- Many people are in favour of:

Yeah, and when it comes to KDR whoring, kinda annoying that when I know I have a lot more frags than the engis, they ripped a good few blocks and overtook me almost instantly. Kinda annoying.

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I'd kind of disagree to be honest. All though I can see where you're coming from. Things like getting points for ripping blocks is kind of rewarding, to the point where classes like Soldiers should even receive points for the amount of damage caused to a block.

Let's face it, if you spend an entire round as a Soldier trying to shoot out a flag piece. Your KDR isn't going to look the best, same goes with the Engineer apart from the point bonus.

Black if I'd have extended the segment of my post where I referred to there being better solutions, I'd have listed that as one of them. However, I assumed that such things would be entirely off the menu due to the impending v2.0.0 development.

The way I see it is that my suggestion is simply one rung up on the ladder compared to the current situation, but there are higher rungs which are simply to time consuming to reach.

I kinda agree, but if you could make it so if it was at full health give 5 points, then at the 4th damage level give 4 points, then at 3rd damage level give 3 points etc. would be cool.

i agree with what sol said

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Sounds familiar.

sry your post was too long.

You should get points for damaging blocks and destroying blocks, not just ripping them first off, but why would you reduce the number of points that you get when you rip a block though? It honestly makes no sense. Why would you take away points for helping to destroy the enemy's fort?

Killing 2 people would be equal to the number of points you would get for ripping a block. According to what you're saying, the blocks shouldn't mean anything and frags should be the biggest counters toward someones points whenever ripping blocks leaves breaks in the enemies defenses, while killing an enemy just makes him respawn. And also, if a person gets a certain amount of points for the amount of health that a block has left, why wouldn't you do this for people too? If an enemy has 3 health left and you kill him, you would still get a point no matter what. It just doesn't make any sense kaidus. Why shouldn't people be encouraged to try and destroy the enemy forts instead of just mindlessly killing the enemy?

You need to reward people for destroying the enemy fort and not just killing the enemy. The game is so much funner and more interesting whenever you actually get points for doing objectives. I remember back in xcal we had a designated block shooter (andrew :P) and his scores would usually be 1-40 or something of the sort, but he had done the majority of the block damage and whenever we won, it was usually because of him, but his score would always be the lowest on the team.

This idea isn't that bad if you raise the number of points that you get for unfreezing blocks at full health (possibly 10 points and it goes down by 1 every 10%). My opinion is just that you gotta reward and encourage people to destroy the enemy fort and get closer and closer to the enemy flag.

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tl:dr & didnt they change it to 2 points per block? lol its /\ 194 post